Ellison reveals strategy behind Sun buyout

Oracle chief aims to beat IBM in systems engineering; trashes Cloud, makes "confession" in San Jose

Technology trends and news by Matt Bowman
September 22, 2009 | Comments (6)
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 A few hundred business men and women dined in fine style at the Fairmont Hotel's swanky Imperial Ballroom in San Jose last night. The Churchill Club was convened to hear an interview with the Valley's longest-running active tech giant CEO, Larry Ellison.

Ed Zander, former President of Sun Microsystems had Sun's new parent in the hotseat for an hour. Zander, who was also CEO at Motorola and is credited with the success of the Razr, introduced himself as the man famous for saying in a discussion over Apple, "Screw the Nano. Who would ever listen to a thousand songs?" earning him a spot on Wired's Dumbest Things Ever Said List. Zander's self-deprecation offered a counterbalance to his subject throughout the night.

Oracle is 32 years old, and Ellison has been at the head since the founding four-member team set down their goal of creating a database company that would one day have 50 employees. The pending acquisition of Sun will bring the tally to 105,000. He said the goal of the Sun acquisition is to p osition Oracle to compete on all fronts with IBM. "We already beat IBM in databases. We want to beat them in systems, if people will let us." The acquisition has been approved in the U.S. but is still undergoing anti-trust review in the Europe. At issue is MySQL, the dominant database company acquired by Sun in January of 2008. "MySQL and Oracle do not compete," Ellison insisted. "They address different markets."

Zander struck a chord when he brought up the threat of cloud computing. If companies no longer need their own databases, Oracle, it's thought, could lose business. "Are you at risk in terms of revenue streams?"

"The Cloud's water vapor," Ellison shot back. "My objection to cloud computing is that it's not only the future of computing; it's the present and it's the entire past." His naturally red faced turned a shade deeper as he slid into his groove. "If there is no hardware or software in the cloud we're screwed! [...] What are these guys talking about?! I mean, what do you think Google runs on?!" Zander's impish smile filled his face. "Give it back to these nitwits on Sandhill Road."

The PR rep next to me leaned over. "Here's your story."

"You ask are we dead because there's no database in the Cloud? The answer is no." Ellison rolled on. "A long time ago before it was the Cloud it was called the Internet--that's even back before it was called Software as a Service."

 Perhaps for the sake of Ellison's blood pressure, Zander moved on. The prognosis for the economy was not good. Some predict a V-shape or a W-shaped recovery, others a U-shaped curve, Ellison said. "It's going to be an L-shaped recovery. Down and stay there. I really believe that." The combination of American consumer debt, increased government spending, higher taxes, and cap-and-trade-induced tarriffs didn't bode well, he mused. "I voted for President Obama. I'll kind of confess that right now... I'm surprised at how much spending there is." In a rare moment of word-searching, he seemed to apologize for his vote.

Asked whether another Oracle could be founded today, Ellison directed entrepreneurs away from computing, noting that consolidation and slowing innovation in the sector will leave a small number of companies competing. "The last big IPO was Google. Facebook is kind of interesting," he searched, unenthusiastically. Instead, he proposed biotech as the next best bet for high-growth entrepreneurs.

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Bambi Francisco Roizen
Bambi Francisco Roizen, on September 22, 2009

A great read.


Matt Bowman
Matt Bowman, on September 22, 2009

Thanks Bambi. A colorful speaker makes writing easy :)


Gary Silver
Gary Silver, on September 22, 2009

Ellison rolled on. "A long time ago before it was the Cloud it was called the Internet--that's even back before it was called Software as a Service." ???? --- I'm struggling to make sense out of this statement.


Matt Bowman
Matt Bowman, on September 23, 2009

Ellison's responding to the confused notion that Cloud Computing will do away with a company's need for a database, ie, if a company can do all their computing "on the cloud," on some web-based service, no more need for Oracle databases and systems! In reality the "Cloud" is just another level of connectivity of one computer to another. The database still exists, just somewhere else. This broad connectivity started with the Internet; SaaS and Cloud Computing are simply consequences of it.


Gary Silver
Gary Silver, on September 23, 2009

Thanks, Matt, I sort of get it. No doubt Oracle to will continue to thrive in a healthy database marketplace. But it seems to me a flawed analogy. The opportunity for database services to be more efficiently delivered to each user through the cloud is a threat of revenue shrink per user per application, and quite distant from expanding database opportunities that the Internet brought, IMHO. Database usage may continue to grow as more applications proliferate under cloud, but at a trade off to other licensing, while I would argue that the Internet brought Oracle absolute growth opportunity of many magnitudes. Maybe they didn't see it that clearly back in the day? Maybe I'm being petty, I guess the bottom line is continuing growth opportunity one way or another.


Matt Bowman
Matt Bowman, on September 23, 2009

Gary,
I think your last point--continuing growth opportunity either way--is all Ellison is saying.

If Oracle can keep producing the fastest databases, they'll maintain dominance, and as the biggest single employer of MIT and Cal Tech engineers in the world, they shouldn't find that too hard.


Jeremiah Shackelford
Jeremiah Shackelford, on September 23, 2009

very good piece.


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